Midline vs. a 50 Defense

[edavis1]

I believe the original thinking on midline was that it was not a great play vs. a true 50 defense with a 0 tech. NT. We found last season that midline was one of our best plays vs. a 50. Every team in our league that starts with a head up NT is going to be angling him one way or another. The days of the 0 tech. plug NT appear to be over. Has anyone else found this to be true?

I also believe that Midline Triple, with counter motion, is one of the best misdirection plays ever invented out of the flexbone vs. a 50 defense with Cover 4/Cover 2 behind it. I would welcome any suggestion, comments, or questions on this topic.

[ftt]

How do you block the mid-line vs. 50.
Do you call it at the line or do you have seperate line rules for the 50.

Could you also explain your counter play?

[ftt]

what formation can you run mid-line out of vs. the 50?

Can you run it against a 3-5?

[LouCella]

How do you block the mid-line vs. 50.
We use veer blocking if we run midline vs. 50.

Do you call it at the line or do you have seperate line rules for the 50.
From 1998-2003 we called it at the LOS, but now we run it regardless of the front. We will check to inside veer if we are given an A gap defender

Could you also explain your counter play?
You can fake the midline and boot around with the QB, or run a counteroption with your halfback.

what formation can you run mid-line out of vs. the 50?
I like the flex/double slot the best. I've run it out of I and single back. Definitely the flex, because you can then have your playside halfback iso the playside linebacker.

Can you run it against a 3-5?
Yes, have the halfback block the stacked linebacker and have the halfback get his head across the linebacker's chest to avoid penetration by the linebacker.

If you have any other questions let me know. It is a good football play vs. 50, and an easy one to run as well. I have been a odd front (3-4/50) coach since 1996 and there is NO WAY a defense can take away both midline and veer if those two plays are run effectively.

[edavis1]

We can run midline out of multiple formations vs. a 50. This year we had an exceptional TB so we were in the "I" alot. We single block the NT with the C and the FB cuts off that block on a give, which happens quite often due to the wider than usual midline handoff key. We put our guards up on the LBs and cut the BST with our BST. On the traditional midline double option the PST fans out on the DE and the HB leads up inside that block.

The midline triple with counter motion out of the flexbone follows the above rules with a couple of differences. The PST will loop release and seal the PSLB. The PSHB will go in counter motion and arc block the CB, while the SE will crack the safety. Basically, it is the old loop triple option scheme, but I believe it is superior to that play because the read is easier (QB doesn't have to be as skilled to handle the double read when his first movement is away from the handoff key).

I haven't quite figured out how I want to run midline vs. the 3-5. My current thinking is to go unbalanced and run it to the weakside once we force the stacks to move over.

[splitveer]

I agree coach smith....give me those 4i tackles anyday!!! 60 stack...i'll take that too !!!! gotta love the outside veer....having that and the IV, Mid, make it very easy to call a game...

1,2,3 tech- inside veer
2,3 tech- midline
4,4i,5 technique - outside veer.....

splitveer

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