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Feb 23, 2005 20:18:26 GMT -5
Post by bobdoc on Feb 23, 2005 20:18:26 GMT -5
i saw someone mention running mid out of the gun.how about having the fb aiming for backside a gap away from the 3 tech.fside same blocking ,bs would be zone .
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mid gun
Feb 23, 2005 20:52:03 GMT -5
Post by tog on Feb 23, 2005 20:52:03 GMT -5
if you are coming at this from a gun/ zone/ counter background
the easiest adjustment for the kids would possibly be a zone dive option. not necessarily a midline with midline blocking rules up front. and it would most likely have to be called.
for example all out of doubles gun versus a 4-2 front of some sort
for the dive=give the line would zone away from where the rest of the action is and the playside end would just come free to try and get to the dive as the psot just comes up on the pslb before the dive
for the zone option part of it after the dive fake, the ol would just zone that way, talking about a vertical push zone rotating up to the backside linebacker, then the dive should hole the pslb, and then you can option off the force
kinda hard to explain in type
but looks good on the board.
if any of you run the mid, with true mid rules up front, do you ever have the 1 get in there and mess it up since it doesn't hit as fast?
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thefish
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mid gun
Feb 28, 2005 20:45:08 GMT -5
Post by thefish on Feb 28, 2005 20:45:08 GMT -5
some guys on another board were saying the biggest problem they had with it from the gun was the timing. the dt would have time to recover and make the tackle on the give, even though he gave the give read.
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mid gun
Feb 28, 2005 22:12:10 GMT -5
Post by bobdoc78 on Feb 28, 2005 22:12:10 GMT -5
what I said as a thought, was run the fb to the opposite a gap .similar to the gun triple which is I believe frontside a gap. keep with demeos thoughts about creating seams with wide splits.
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mid gun
Feb 28, 2005 22:14:27 GMT -5
Post by bobdoc78 on Feb 28, 2005 22:14:27 GMT -5
sorry about the repeat post.
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mid gun
Mar 12, 2005 22:51:06 GMT -5
Post by tog on Mar 12, 2005 22:51:06 GMT -5
some guys on another board were saying the biggest problem they had with it from the gun was the timing. the dt would have time to recover and make the tackle on the give, even though he gave the give read. where was this fish?
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mid gun
Mar 12, 2005 22:52:46 GMT -5
Post by tog on Mar 12, 2005 22:52:46 GMT -5
what I said as a thought, was run the fb to the opposite a gap .similar to the gun triple which is I believe frontside a gap. keep with demeos thoughts about creating seams with wide splits. a vertical push zone team that rotated up to the playside linebacker could run a version of the midline look out of the gun with the back heading into the backside a gap to hold the backside linebacker and then have a jet guy be the pitch man or the extra guy through
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thefish
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mid gun
Mar 13, 2005 9:50:14 GMT -5
Post by thefish on Mar 13, 2005 9:50:14 GMT -5
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Mar 13, 2005 9:58:16 GMT -5
Post by tog on Mar 13, 2005 9:58:16 GMT -5
ha
funny
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Mar 20, 2005 17:59:08 GMT -5
Post by thefish on Mar 20, 2005 17:59:08 GMT -5
i was at a clinic last week and their zone out of the gun could easily be converted to the mid, imo. on their zone, the qb takes two steps forward on the snap so the rb is square to the line when he gets the ball. to make up for the quick hitting of the midline, you could scoot the qb and rb up a yard and still take those two steps on the snap and get the back sqaure to the line.
for the blocking, you could zone it like tog mentioned, especially for those teams that are more of the zone/gun/counter teams. in fact, that was how they presented it. the front line zone blocks and qb reads bs end for the give/keep.
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mid gun
Mar 20, 2005 18:40:28 GMT -5
Post by optionfootball on Mar 20, 2005 18:40:28 GMT -5
<img src='http://x2.putfile.com/3/7817420754.jpg' alt='Hosted by Putfile.com'> Tell me what y'all think of this. I'm not sure you can necessarily call this a midline, but it does give you another inside option run. The Qb's read will be the same as under center. Read the first man headup or outside the guard. I have this play drawn up with a TE. This is basically the guard wrap play, however you leave the tackle unblocked. The DT should follow the pulling guard if hes' reading it right. If the does anything else but follow the guard the QB will give. If the DT gets in the guards hip pocket the QB will pull and replace...the TE, can be a WR in motion or WB fold block, will lead the QB into the hole....any comments.
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mid gun
Mar 20, 2005 18:48:00 GMT -5
Post by tog on Mar 20, 2005 18:48:00 GMT -5
optionfootball
you need to email me
togadelic@gmail.com
that is a version of something we do
that would be a zone-g instead of our zone t
you are rotating up to the bslb, so someone would need to pull up through
pick the guard with the widest dt over him, andthen just call it that way. dang good idea there
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mid gun
Mar 20, 2005 19:53:23 GMT -5
Post by optionfootball on Mar 20, 2005 19:53:23 GMT -5
anyway you could diagram in paint, put in in putfile and show me what y'all do?
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mid gun
Mar 20, 2005 19:55:39 GMT -5
Post by thefish on Mar 20, 2005 19:55:39 GMT -5
i like it. do you ever bring the slot receiver in motion and then go pitch relationship with qb?
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mid gun
Mar 20, 2005 20:25:50 GMT -5
Post by optionfootball on Mar 20, 2005 20:25:50 GMT -5
You could do that, but I wouldn't really want to pitch the football if the QB gets a pull read...I would use the pitch back as more of a decoy to keep that $ from sliding inside into the hole.
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