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Post by hayrikki on Feb 8, 2005 14:49:25 GMT -5
I have posted this question on a couple of boards but haven't gotten a clear answer. When we block for our Veer playaction we have play side line gap block, ie SG goes to B gap, ST to C Full back covers A gap. Half back goes to D from pitch route. Center takes BS A gap, backside guard B gap backside tackle to C. What gets us is a backside OSLB blitz, especially when the defese is a 4-4. We have no one to pick him up. I know if we get the throw off quickly it won't matter. But as you all know it doesn't always go the way you planned! Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Post by edavis1 on Feb 11, 2005 13:14:31 GMT -5
Coach,
We gap it across the board. PST and PSG gap down and C, BSG, and BST block their backside gap. FB picks up the 1st thing outside the PST and the "pitch" back picks up the 1st thing outside the FB. There is not a great fake between the QB and FB, but I think that is overrated. We just have our QB stay low down the line before he pops back do his drop point behind the PST. In the double slot, the motion and the QB moving down the LOS is enough to sell the option look and force the defense to move to their option responsibilities. I like this protection because it negates all inside blitzes and the playside of the defense will normally hesitate when it sees option coming toward them, making the backs' blocks easy. Whenever we're having trouble blocking the backside, we'll put a TE on the backside and leave him in, working a 2 man combination on the front side. We also have a nice screen to the playside slot sneaking to the backside that discourages too much reckless abandon back there. Sorry for being long-winded.
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Post by elvis on Feb 15, 2005 15:55:58 GMT -5
edavis1 -
How do you set up your screen?
What formation do you use?
Thanks in advance!
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Post by kc361 on Feb 15, 2005 17:00:39 GMT -5
hayrikki,
We have a protection that has worked very well for us. Maybe it can fit what you do.
C, BSG, BST have the BS A, B and C-gaps, respectively. The BSHB (slot) motions, takes 2 steps on a pitch path, then turns back to the BS to pick up the D-gap rusher. On the PS, the PSG has the A-gap, the RB has the B-gap (which is where he runs on ISV, anyway) and the PST has the C-gap. The RB slides to the outside hip of the PST if no one shows in the B-gap. We used to protect with the BSHB getting to the PS D-gap and we got drilled with BS blitzes off the edge. Now, we've got 4 protecting on the BS. We only have 3 on the PS, but no one seems to blitz the PS of an option P/A.
What takes alot of coaching and repitition is the PSG in the A-gap and the RB in the B-gap, especially if the PSG has a 3-technique. How we coach it is this...engage the man on you with eyes on your gap. So, the PSG engages the '3' and only comes off if a LB runs through the A-gap. If he comes off the '3', then the RB takes over on a DT, but he's already had to restart (a key in pass protection technique). If the LB lines up in the A-gap, then the PSG makes a 'gap' call. The PSG has the LB right now; the PST has the '3' right now and the RB has the C-gap.
kc
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Post by edavis1 on Feb 15, 2005 18:19:52 GMT -5
Elvis,
We stole this from watching Air Force tape. Wing Left / Slot Right. LHB runs counter motion and wheels out the backside. TE runs a seam route, trying to draw the defense deep with him. QB and FB sell option right however you want. RHB fakes the downblock he would normally make on a backside option pass and slides along behind the LOS to the left flat where the QB hits him. Use whichever offensive linemen you want for the screen (we would use the LT, LG, and C; Air Force uses the C and both Gs). The linemen can just step to their gap blocks and continue downt LOS for the screen. Makes people think twice about bringing heat off the back edge.
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Post by veersite on Mar 8, 2005 17:03:22 GMT -5
Coach, Below is a link to diagrams of how we block our playaction outta splitbacks. It has it against a 44 and a 52. veersite.blogspot.com/2005/01/play-action-pass-protection.htmlOne thing you might try is keeping the QB low as he makes his fake to the psHB (who really makes the fake by rolling over the ball) I've seen Carson Newman video where the QB actually almost taps the ball to the ground before his 3 step drop! Hope it helps you out, Coach Smith
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Post by geust on Mar 8, 2005 18:53:30 GMT -5
either your bsg or center are gonna have to help if the back side dt threatens the a gap center has him and the bsg peels back if the dt threatens b gap then the bsg has him and the center peels back. they have got to communicate and move they just can't stand their and be fat
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Post by guest on Mar 8, 2005 18:53:59 GMT -5
either your bsg or center are gonna have to help if the back side dt threatens the a gap center has him and the bsg peels back if the dt threatens b gap then the bsg has him and the center peels back. they have got to communicate and move they just can't stand their and be fat
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