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Post by junior on Mar 10, 2005 12:56:58 GMT -5
Coaches, I'm a brand new option coach. We are going to run the split back veer. I'm sold on it, especially the OSV, but what are some of the drawbacks of the offense? Why are so many people running option with a fullback, is it just the simplicity of teaching one kid the dive? If the OSV is as good of a play as it looks, and the split backs are condusive to running it, then why not more split back teams?
Thanks you guys.
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Post by veersite on Mar 10, 2005 18:58:24 GMT -5
Weaknesses... I think the biggest knock against it would be that it isn't a good formation for power football. If you wanna run iso, iso, iso, then it's not the best formation for that. I also think that playaction from the veer is 99% good (option responsibities really screw with secondary assignments) but has a few minor drawbacks. For example, play action passing fro the "I" does allow for more depth off of the LOS for the QB while carrying out a fake. A veer QB passes a lot from the LOS and rarely gets more than what equates to 3 step drop depth off the LOS. You can get a form of sprint out play action off of the Speed Option, but you're still not getting much depth off of the LOS. Personally, I think the way the option play action can totally fool defenses more than makes up for any drawbacks there might be.
Other weaknesses I might venture would be that it might not emphasize a premier back like the I, but then, in the I, everyone would be keying the great back anyway. You do tend to split carries 3-ways in the veer, with the QB getting slightly more than either HB (at least thats the way it's developed for us).
Still thinking... well, the offensive line play requires a lot of finesse. Ive seen quite a few of our "slower" linemen become defensive specialists because they just couldn't remember assignments, or couldn't think quick enough to think on thier feet during check-offs on the line, etc. There's more to line play than blocking gap, gap, gap, kickoutw/FB.
It's not the easiest offense to install if nobody on your staff has any experience with it. It really, really, helps if you can go to a team clinic to get training for your position coaches, or atl least enlist the help of a "guru" to come over for a few days to get your staff up to speed on it. I've been an option fan since I started coaching over 12 years ago. I colleceted every article I could out of every coaching magazine I could get my hands on, read books on the subject, but I have to admit, I really didn't start understanding it until I joined the staff of a really good option program.
You might also consider installing it with your freshmen and JV teams a season before you make the big switch to it... if you can't get trained ahead of time on it. It might reduce some of the growing pains you're inevitably going to have going to a new system.
Hope I've helped,
Coach Smith
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Post by CoachWeidner on May 4, 2005 8:47:56 GMT -5
I can give a very simple answer here. For me it's always been, DO I HAVE A GOOD FULLBACK? If I do, We run more I than Split and you get your midline. If I have 2 halfbacks and no true fullback then the answer is splitbacks, if you have 3 backs why not run both formations, I know the mesh is a little different, but it can be done easily. plus you can go to stong, weak, near and far formations giving you simular looks out of both...
Near (HB to weak side is FAR)
O--------------O--O--X--O--O--O
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Strong (FB to weak side is WEAK)
O--------------O--O--X--O--O--O
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Post by wolverine55 on May 6, 2005 15:03:43 GMT -5
Agreed, Coach Weidner! It doesn't really matter if you have true TB personel, it's all about a true fullback. The HC I've worked under the past three seasons loves Split Back, but we have been an I team due to having true fullback-type players.
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Post by CoachWeidner on May 9, 2005 7:01:07 GMT -5
BUT, if you have a true FB and run some split backs, the ISO can be a game breaker, you still seal the LB but now your tailback is on an angle or veer path and can break things, then your depending on weather you have a shift tailback or a strait ahead burner for preference.
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Post by wolverine55 on May 12, 2005 7:34:32 GMT -5
Coach, do you look for something in particular when calling ISO or is it just a change-up?
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