ISV to 3 tech; No double-team??

[veersite]

At the last Carson-Newman Clinic, O.C. Turner said that they were having success running ISV to the 3 tech w/o doubling with the tackle. CN runs with the HBs heels at 4 yards from the ball and used the point-mesh style of reading... so the dive hits very quick. Have any of you coaches out there done this? In effect, the psG is getting his inside shoulder on the outside thighpad of the 3 tech - which is effectively a cut block for us since our O-line plays at knee-level anyway. The ps OT is free to release on a path to cut off the MLB w/o getting tied-up in a doubleteam with the guard.

Any thoughts /observations would be appreciated before we devote any time to this.

Coach Smith

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[hayrikki]

When we see a 3 tech we are usually seeing a 4-4 of some kind. we will run OSV to the strong side or our version of a counter dive to that side. We will also go to an I and run midline or iso at the bubble. I don't want to sound stupid but i don't quite understand
why you run an ISV and not an OSV to a 3 tech. Someone clue me in on that. Coach, would you explain a point mesh read? Thanks

[LouCella]

Although Coach Turner is an expert, I disagree. The most efficient way to run the veer is to double team the three technique and have two offensive players track the playside linebacker. For the split-back veer, often the team is unable to double the 3-technique due to the lack of blockers away from the tight end. As someone who has run the veer since 2000, the best way to run it is to double team the 3 and send your remaining playside offensive players to the inside linebacker.

[AMikell]

Coaches,
I think that you can do this, but you better have some studs, well really smart guys as your guards. If you are really playing under the table as you describe, then this can be done, but your guards better have the best technique and be the first off the ball. Technique beats size any day. Speaking from personal experience if you can teach your OL to play under the table you will dominate, and get lots of people to the second level, which is the point of option football after all.

[veersite]

Hey, Coaches, and thanks for all the well-thought out replies...

We automatically call for the double when we are running ISV to a 3 tech... but we, like most veer teams, will midline the 3 tech and run ISV to the backside 1 tech. The only problem we have at times running the ISV to the 3 is getting a hat on the MLB due to the double-team slowing down the psOT. After reading the replies to my initial post, I guess the best thing would be to let the guards assess the DT's and let us know if they think they can beat them one-on-one. If they can, then ISV and Midline are gonna be eating them up to the strong side... if not, then we'll run the Midline and perhaps go a bit off tackle with a G-Option (keeper, follow, etc).

Coach Smith